Re: [MonetDB-users] Query time takes equally long on whole

24 Feb 2011

      We have experienced big improvements from Nov-2009SP2 to Oct-2010SP1 as well
except for views.

It appears that the mitosis optimizer has problems with views and queries on
them run slower than without it.

(~9 sec slower on 1 min queries on views and ~20 sec slower on 2 min queries
on views using default_pipe rather than no_mitosis_pipe or nov2009_pipe)

The mitosis optimizer was the big change in the optimizer pipeline between
these versions.

Is it possible that this is still from the bug?:

http://bugs.monetdb.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2472

Can anyone tell me if there are any plans for optimization improvements
(either mitosis, commonTerms, or otherwise) with queries on views?

David Suh
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Hello Henry,
Thank you for your reply! See inline.
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 7:54 AM, Henry Addington <hs.addington@gmail.com
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wrote:
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I am no technical expert on MonetDB. But, we have been using MonetDB for
more than a year now. So, I can give you couple of suggestions
(or workarounds) that might help based on our experience. We are using a
third-party application that generates queries and sends them to MonetDB
which has a transaction table with more than 1.6billion records and
growing
(timeseries data like yours..) linked to dimensional tables. The kinds of
queries that are being generated are almost exact type that you are
showing,
some sort of an aggregation query using group by and filtered with where
clause.
One thing that we noticed with queries with joins is that inner join
seems
to be significantly faster than left/right joins even if the results are
no
different between the 3 types of joins. I know that might not be an
option
for you. But, it works for our use case.
I've changed my queries into two separate ones: one for the total
timescope, and one for (occasionally) getting the results spread over the
interval for one item. The new total timescope query is faster on less time
as scope, and as fast as before on the total 24 hour scope, so definitely
an
improvement for me.
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Another thing that we noticed is if you add constraints, ie primary and
foreign keys, you will get better performance. I think you might already
have them in your tables though....
I do have them, but i didn't add them in my create statement. I''m also
going to try if this adds extra speed.
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We are in the process of testing Oct-2010SP1 release so we can upgrade
our Nov-2009SP2 environment. We are seeing significant performance
improvement in most of our typical queries and much smaller memory
footprint
...
with the Oct-2010SP1 release. But, we see some performance degradation
with
queries based on views instead of tables. You might want to try the
Nov-2009
optimizer and see if that helps. You can do this by specifyng the
Nov-2009
optimizer in the monetdb5.conf file.
This didn't show any difference on the original query, but thanks for
mentioning. I might need it in the future.
Kind regards,
Rob Berentsen

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as interval
            FROM table2 AS t2
             LEFT JOIN table 1 AS t1 ON t1.T1vid=t2.T2vid
            WHERE* t2.T2timestamp BETWEEN 1298360000 AND 1298363600*
            AND t2.T2Field1=8 AND t2.T2vid IN (*list of 15 unique
v.T1vid
ID's*)
            GROUP BY interval, t1.T1Field1, t1.T1Field2 ORDER BY
interval
DESC;
t2.T2timestamp is now devided by 300, so each set of 15 v.T1vid ID's
would
reflect 5 minuntes, returning max 12x15 rows.
I would very much appreciate any help or hints; please let me know any
question you might have.
Kind regards,
Rob Berentsen
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as interval
            FROM table2 AS t2
            LEFT JOIN table 1 AS t1 ON t1.T1vid=t2.T2vid
            WHERE t2.T2Field1=8 AND t2.T2vid IN (*list of 15 unique
v.T1vid ID's*)
            GROUP BY interval, t1.T1Field1, t1.T1Field2 ORDER BY
interval
DESC;
Resulting is a list of the 15 v.T1vid ID's times the number of
interval's.
t2.T2timestamp is now devided by 3600 and grouped on this result, so
each
set of 15 v.T1vid ID's would reflect 1 hour, returning max 24x15 rows.
**
 The following query also takes about 3,5 seconds, but it does have the
timestamp included in the WHERE-clause. It only needs to access 1 hour
of
data instead of the whole 24 hours, and groups it into intervals of 5
minutes (300 sec):
SELECT SUM(t2.T2Field2), t1.T1Field1, t1.T1Field2, (t2.T2timestamp /
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On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 4:24 AM, Rob Berentsen <rhberentsen@gmail.com
wrote:
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Hello,
I'm new to monetdb and installed it two weeks ago to do some tests. I
was
very much impressed with the speed on large tables, but in some of my
latest
tests regarding subparts of these tables based on a unix timestamp the
time
was the same as querying the whole table. Does anyone know what I can do
to
get higher speeds on queries in monetdb that only use part of the table,
like partition pruning, explicit foreign keys or unique statements,
indexes or some other way?
I have the following two tables and number of records:
CREATE TABLE table1 (T1vid INT NOT NULL, T1Field1 VARCHAR(20) NOT
NULL, T1Field2 TINYINT NOT NULL);
This table has about 400.000 records. The records are non time bounded,
it's just a list. The T1vid is an increased ID, but not generated in
momentdb at the moment, but in mysql
CREATE TABLE table2 (T2mid INT NOT NULL, T2vid INT NOT NULL, T2timestamp
INT NOT NULL, T2Field1 INT NOT NULL, T2Field2 INT NOT NULL);
This table has about 1.000.000 records and a unix_timestamp field. It
get
a few new records every second and records older then 24 hours are
deleted.
The T2mid-field refers to some other table that's not in momentdb's
database, so just an integer. The T2vid-field however refers to the
T1vid-field in table1 (a foreign key, but i didn't define it that way).
The following query takes about 3,5 seconds, it doesnt't have the
timestamp included in the WHERE-clause:
SELECT SUM(t2.T2Field2), t1.T1Field1, t1.T1Field2, (t2.T2timestamp /

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